As the Blog is stupidly called - 'New To Null' I suppose I should start there!
I had been considering moving one character back to Null sec, as to be honest I enjoyed it there.
I had still not for filled an objective of ratting properly (i.e not belts) in a null sec environment. I also had not built as much as I wished.
As a renter in CFC space there appear to be strict rules.
1. Stay in your systems unless shopping or traveling.
2. No scanning in systems that you do not rent
3. No mining in systems you do not rent
4. No ratting in systems you do not rent
5. Station services, e.g. refining can be used in other systems, but bring your own air...can't use theirs!
6. No anchoring towers in other systems
Now some of these I can understand. People pay rent, some of it huge, to rent a system, and the sites in them should be for them, however if I pop next door and mine one of the 20 belts, I am not depleting their resources but I am increasing their system mining index.... They should thank me!
Also Scanning for wormholes should be allowed, they are a content generator and a transport link.
Mine is however not to reason why, and I will live by the rules.
Having jumped out in a Prospect, I unloaded the 96 BPC's and two dozen modules that I fitted in the hold, refit the low slots for mining and headed out.
Not many belts in the home system so warp to one and take a look. Usual Caldari space mix. Nothing high end, just the mix you would see in any low sec belt. Hemorphite being the best ore on show. Quick check of the other systems and all appear the same. Null sec but not deep null sec. The high end ores would have to wait for a belt to spawn, bit like high sec.
Talking to other members of the corp, there is an organised mining trip to one system once every 3-4 days. This then ups the index enough to spawn one or two belts, thus the good ore.
The rest of the time seems to be spent ratting, mining or ship spinning
I quickly had mined enough to build myself some station vault containers and 2 dozen secure cargo containers, an Algos and a Venture. Added a Kryos and Miasmos as well in case I needed to transport ore/minerals.
Station Vault containers to me are a necessary luxury. - These massive containers allow you to sort all your stuff and keep your main hanger relatively clear.
I went for 5:-
1. Ammo and Drones
2. BP's
3. Sale Bin
4. Meta 4 plus
5. Useful Stuff
Ore and minerals are the only things regularly in the main Hanger. Ammo and Drones is self explanatory as is BP's. Meta 4 plus is where any tech 2 or meta 4 plus items go. These I normally hang onto for a few weeks. Useful Stuff is storage for any parts that will fit on any of my ships. For example I have a 20 run frigate bpc here, so 1MN afterburners and microwarp drives, and medium shield mods end up here along with any weapon systems that will fit. I will have to import some stuff, like webs, but it ends up cheaper as some is loot. The sale bin, is everything else and I will export back to Jita on a weekly basis to sell.
The small secure containers are far more paranoid.
You should have, in the first hour or two made a couple of personal safe spots in system. Now go and make a couple more, as far out as you can. Take and anchor as many secure containers as you can here. This is your back up stash. Each set should have a mobile depot, cargo expander II's and warp core stabs. I also add probe launcher and sisters core probes. You then can store anything very valuable safely. In case you had not noticed, secure cargo containers cannot be probed down, and so as long as you do not sit there afk or drop a depot there, they are totally safe. If the station gets flipped or you are booted from corp and locked out then some stuff can be salvaged.
Oliver
Friday, January 9, 2015
Jita
Now for John.
Things are on the move. Corp has been told that a brief stint in Null is on the cards in the not too distant future. Almost like a deployment to help some people fight.
So John seems to have a small mountain of salvage hanging around, but not much isk. So a run to a market to sell it all seems to be in order.
Jita is only 18 jumps, only 2 in low, so pick a frigate, load up what eve says is 180 million of salvage in the hold and toddle off. What can go wrong.
A basic Atron frigate is often my preferred travel method to this nice calm holiday system. Jump into Ostingle as the last Low system, and warp to high and jump. Small gate camp on the gate but no smart bombers so all's cool.
I have a debate with myself over auto pilot, can make a nice cup of tea while waiting.... and decide not to.
I hit no issues, jump into a freighter gank in Udema, nothing new, but probably the best time as the hoardes of vultures are either pretty blue triangles or concentrating on doing the same to someone else...
And on into Jita.
I am quite happy that I had been playing Eve for well over a year before I went to see it.
Not been shot there yet but the grief of 2000 people in one system is not good.
I hide Local - anything said there is by and large a scam trying to separate you from your ISK.
The shear repetitiveness of some of the adverts leads me to believe that a large number of people are
1. Either macro controlled and not there.
2. Have a small child that they pay in sweets to do the repetitive cut and paste
3. Have a very high boredom / low intelligence level
4. Terminally Stupid
If you look at the history a huge amount of them are less than a week old. They all seem to have billions of ISK that they want to give away though.
Jumping in, the usual crowd of about 30 gate scum were hanging around. As no war dec's, and not in a freighter, Industrial or high end ratting ship, no one I suspect, even scanned me. No one worries an Atron where there are other juicy targets.
I feel that you are safe moving high value small mass stuff in a basic frigate than elsewhere. Saying that not on auto pilot.
Straight for buy orders, as I have not tried the trading aspect of the game, I was surprised that it all sold for only about a million less than the cargo hold estimated.
So I painted a big bulls eye on the Atron, bought 1 tritanium, put it in a cargo canister and then contracted that via Hardly Athletic to John to ferry back...
I then un docked, waited about 60 seconds and auto piloted back.
NOT ONE person shot me.... I was hoping for one of the happy campers to scan me, see all the wrapping and gank me. The kill mail would have been hilarious, a unfitted (well basic gattling gun) 400 k Atron for a gank ship worth millions to Concord, and me if I was quick enough with the gattling gun....
Ostingle on the way back almost had me. Jumped in to 11 yellow flashy ships, 9 Logi and two of those new tech 3 destroyers... Thankfully all too far to point before I warped...
Anyway. unless you really have to, its just nicer to shop elsewhere.
John
Things are on the move. Corp has been told that a brief stint in Null is on the cards in the not too distant future. Almost like a deployment to help some people fight.
So John seems to have a small mountain of salvage hanging around, but not much isk. So a run to a market to sell it all seems to be in order.
Jita is only 18 jumps, only 2 in low, so pick a frigate, load up what eve says is 180 million of salvage in the hold and toddle off. What can go wrong.
A basic Atron frigate is often my preferred travel method to this nice calm holiday system. Jump into Ostingle as the last Low system, and warp to high and jump. Small gate camp on the gate but no smart bombers so all's cool.
I have a debate with myself over auto pilot, can make a nice cup of tea while waiting.... and decide not to.
I hit no issues, jump into a freighter gank in Udema, nothing new, but probably the best time as the hoardes of vultures are either pretty blue triangles or concentrating on doing the same to someone else...
And on into Jita.
I am quite happy that I had been playing Eve for well over a year before I went to see it.
Not been shot there yet but the grief of 2000 people in one system is not good.
I hide Local - anything said there is by and large a scam trying to separate you from your ISK.
The shear repetitiveness of some of the adverts leads me to believe that a large number of people are
1. Either macro controlled and not there.
2. Have a small child that they pay in sweets to do the repetitive cut and paste
3. Have a very high boredom / low intelligence level
4. Terminally Stupid
If you look at the history a huge amount of them are less than a week old. They all seem to have billions of ISK that they want to give away though.
Jumping in, the usual crowd of about 30 gate scum were hanging around. As no war dec's, and not in a freighter, Industrial or high end ratting ship, no one I suspect, even scanned me. No one worries an Atron where there are other juicy targets.
I feel that you are safe moving high value small mass stuff in a basic frigate than elsewhere. Saying that not on auto pilot.
Straight for buy orders, as I have not tried the trading aspect of the game, I was surprised that it all sold for only about a million less than the cargo hold estimated.
So I painted a big bulls eye on the Atron, bought 1 tritanium, put it in a cargo canister and then contracted that via Hardly Athletic to John to ferry back...
I then un docked, waited about 60 seconds and auto piloted back.
NOT ONE person shot me.... I was hoping for one of the happy campers to scan me, see all the wrapping and gank me. The kill mail would have been hilarious, a unfitted (well basic gattling gun) 400 k Atron for a gank ship worth millions to Concord, and me if I was quick enough with the gattling gun....
Ostingle on the way back almost had me. Jumped in to 11 yellow flashy ships, 9 Logi and two of those new tech 3 destroyers... Thankfully all too far to point before I warped...
Anyway. unless you really have to, its just nicer to shop elsewhere.
John
Wednesday, January 7, 2015
A bit of a haphazard set up.
The basics covered in the last post having been done, Oliver was seeking direction.
Exploration was out, as too few systems are available.
Building is a possibility, but to do it properly I would want an industrial POS, lots of BP's /BPC copies and a small army of mining alts.
I have been in system 5 days now, and have a number of buy orders out for minerals, none of which have been filled over two days. I see a number of corp out mining, but all the ones I ask are mining for their own build projects. So without the small alt army (strictly Navy) I will give that a miss.
So Mining for my own purposes, PI and ratting are left. I discount pvp at present as I need either the cash to import ships and fittings or the minerals to build the hulls at least.
Mining.
The Prospect is good though, to warp to a belt cloaked to check for rats before mining starts. It is however totally defenseless and not even a single drone to its name. So the tactic is to sit more than 2k from any object, mine and as soon as rats enter or players turn up, cloak before you can be locked and moon walk out. It takes about 15 mins to fill the 10k ore hold so its not a bad little safe miner.
I had a situation at one point that every belt was colonised by rats, and even your basic frigate would doom a prospect. Luckily an obliging ratter cleared them out of several belt in a few minutes.
Exploration was out, as too few systems are available.
Building is a possibility, but to do it properly I would want an industrial POS, lots of BP's /BPC copies and a small army of mining alts.
I have been in system 5 days now, and have a number of buy orders out for minerals, none of which have been filled over two days. I see a number of corp out mining, but all the ones I ask are mining for their own build projects. So without the small alt army (strictly Navy) I will give that a miss.
So Mining for my own purposes, PI and ratting are left. I discount pvp at present as I need either the cash to import ships and fittings or the minerals to build the hulls at least.
Mining.
The Prospect is good though, to warp to a belt cloaked to check for rats before mining starts. It is however totally defenseless and not even a single drone to its name. So the tactic is to sit more than 2k from any object, mine and as soon as rats enter or players turn up, cloak before you can be locked and moon walk out. It takes about 15 mins to fill the 10k ore hold so its not a bad little safe miner.
I had a situation at one point that every belt was colonised by rats, and even your basic frigate would doom a prospect. Luckily an obliging ratter cleared them out of several belt in a few minutes.
It is however a bit dull. Don't get me wrong, a bit of mining never hurt anyone, and if you have no other options and / or need to, mining is what you do.
Then there is Ratting....
I was lucky here, in that chatting with people here one offered me a Vexor Navy Issue for about 20% under the Jita price point. So I said yes. Never had one before. I also helpfully was supplied a link for a ratting fit in this space
High
Drone Link Augmentor II
Medium
Experimental 100MN Afterburner
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Drone Navigation Computer II
Low
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Power Diagnostic System II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Power Diagnostic System II
Rigs
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Anti Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Drones
Gecko x2
Caldari Navy Wasp
Hammerhead II x5
Warrior II x5
My only change was the Drone Nav computer which went from a II to a I
Now my skills being Heavy Drone 2 and Gallente Cruiser 3 --- I was wondering...
Anyway most of the parts were not available locally and it was wait 3 days for Jita delivery or run he 12 jumps to a null market. The jump bridge took it down to 4, so that was the way to go....
Shopping in a Prospect is no issue, cloaked and jumping as quick as possible, got there, bought the stuff and was back at the jump bridge before my timer ran out... Spent 30 mins mining with 20 million in parts in the hold... Oh what fun.
On return had most of the fit, just not the 100MN AB or the tech 2 rigs or the Power diagnostic system. Also only had tech 1 Wardens.
So took it on a tour of the belts and happily warped in at 50 and blapped everything.
I then tried a rally point...
This was interesting. I picked a point 50 k out dropped sentries and orbited them with 10MN ab on.
I had to warp out twice as was entering armour, but eventually got it done.....
More in the next installment
So took it on a tour of the belts and happily warped in at 50 and blapped everything.
I then tried a rally point...
This was interesting. I picked a point 50 k out dropped sentries and orbited them with 10MN ab on.
I had to warp out twice as was entering armour, but eventually got it done.....
More in the next installment
Monday, January 5, 2015
Brief catch up and overview
Well, new job in RL has kept me busy. Not tooo busy to play Eve but nearly. Now its 2015 and lots of in game catch up to do.
3rd Character I build I named Hardly Athletic, as I had no plan zipping around the galaxy!
Hi sec PI was fairly productive, but due to my laxness I was getting about 13 million a week out to Dodixie. Happy days. Now due to other changes detailed later he is sitting in that Hell hole that is Jita IV, training some trade skills. Using last 5 days of the Christmas freebie to do this. His job is basically to buy anything Oliver and soon to be John wants and contract to a Jump Freighter service for delivery.
He also (hence the trade skills) receives 'stuff' sent back the other way for disposal. The first load went straight to buy orders, but now the trade skills are developing some will go on the market.
Its nothing brilliant, just ratting loot belonging to Oliver.
Oliver.
Now he has gone from high sec mining in the Placid region to the role of Low sec renter in Vale of the Silent. Only been there 10 days so fairly new... Was looking to join Ares Legion, part of the Bastion, as that was where a number of other ex Back Water pilots went, however, they will only take main (or all characters) on an account, so that was a no. I was up front and declared I was an alt and who and where main was though. Several ex Back Water pilots recommended a smaller renter corp in the same region. So I applied. It helped that I knew one of them and came recommended by a couple of Ares Legion chaps, but inside a few days I was accepted, and just had to run out to their home.
Now as per usual the gateway between The Forge and Vale of the Silent was hell camped. I also had to get there, 27 jumps mainly through high sec. Being happier in Low I went 18 through low sec and just a handful in high to get to a seemingly random low sec system.
Now I was warned that getting there with significant assets would be problematical. I was advised pick interceptor or bomber and get everything else brought by the normal JF run twice a week.
Not wanting to be stuck with nothing to do I fitted a Prospect for mining, filled the hold with BPC's that may be useful and there I was. The lowsec run, in a ship with a stupidly small sig radius, cloak and travel fit was easy. Blew through two gate camps before they could lock. Nearly all battle cruiser DPS ships or battleship smart bombers...
The corp CEO came to meet me in a black ops battleship and (this is where the Prospect is good) bridged me through to one of their systems. After a cool down used a jump bridge to my new home.
Without giving any details away, the new home is a quiet system, but not a dead end, so there is some passing traffic, that looks to have lots of ratting sites, but no ore sites.
The mining all takes place in a remote system that is one step away by Jump Bridge.
John
Remains currently in low sec Placid. Has been a little relaxed in activities. Shot a couple of defenseless data site runners in Pelille, went to war against high sec Island dwellers 9 to 5, and shot a few of their POCO's. explored a number of wormholes, ended in Null a few times running data and relic sites, and joined a couple of Gal Mil fleets and shot nothing.... and that's about it.
The Data site runners were both fairly new, one was an old account but had re subbed with the Rhea release. Both were clueless about D-scan as I was following with combat probes. To be honest I was looking for lost drones but when ships pop up, its rude not to track them down.
I followed the same routine for each, entered site cloaked, sat 10k off a can and waited for them to come to that can. as soon as they started the hack, de-cloaked, locked and a single rail gun volley, blew them off the field. Did not bother to lock the pods, and they were both probably quick enough to evade if I had.
Had a chat afterwards and showed both how to Dscan. Also felt sorry for them, so in the spirit of good cheer and all that re shipped both into cruiser hulls, I had spare, and sent them on their way. Hopefully that would help them to re sub rather than jack it in. Also both may stay out of low sec until they feel happier.
More individual details shortly
3rd Character I build I named Hardly Athletic, as I had no plan zipping around the galaxy!
Hi sec PI was fairly productive, but due to my laxness I was getting about 13 million a week out to Dodixie. Happy days. Now due to other changes detailed later he is sitting in that Hell hole that is Jita IV, training some trade skills. Using last 5 days of the Christmas freebie to do this. His job is basically to buy anything Oliver and soon to be John wants and contract to a Jump Freighter service for delivery.
He also (hence the trade skills) receives 'stuff' sent back the other way for disposal. The first load went straight to buy orders, but now the trade skills are developing some will go on the market.
Its nothing brilliant, just ratting loot belonging to Oliver.
Oliver.
Now he has gone from high sec mining in the Placid region to the role of Low sec renter in Vale of the Silent. Only been there 10 days so fairly new... Was looking to join Ares Legion, part of the Bastion, as that was where a number of other ex Back Water pilots went, however, they will only take main (or all characters) on an account, so that was a no. I was up front and declared I was an alt and who and where main was though. Several ex Back Water pilots recommended a smaller renter corp in the same region. So I applied. It helped that I knew one of them and came recommended by a couple of Ares Legion chaps, but inside a few days I was accepted, and just had to run out to their home.
Now as per usual the gateway between The Forge and Vale of the Silent was hell camped. I also had to get there, 27 jumps mainly through high sec. Being happier in Low I went 18 through low sec and just a handful in high to get to a seemingly random low sec system.
Now I was warned that getting there with significant assets would be problematical. I was advised pick interceptor or bomber and get everything else brought by the normal JF run twice a week.
Not wanting to be stuck with nothing to do I fitted a Prospect for mining, filled the hold with BPC's that may be useful and there I was. The lowsec run, in a ship with a stupidly small sig radius, cloak and travel fit was easy. Blew through two gate camps before they could lock. Nearly all battle cruiser DPS ships or battleship smart bombers...
The corp CEO came to meet me in a black ops battleship and (this is where the Prospect is good) bridged me through to one of their systems. After a cool down used a jump bridge to my new home.
Without giving any details away, the new home is a quiet system, but not a dead end, so there is some passing traffic, that looks to have lots of ratting sites, but no ore sites.
The mining all takes place in a remote system that is one step away by Jump Bridge.
John
Remains currently in low sec Placid. Has been a little relaxed in activities. Shot a couple of defenseless data site runners in Pelille, went to war against high sec Island dwellers 9 to 5, and shot a few of their POCO's. explored a number of wormholes, ended in Null a few times running data and relic sites, and joined a couple of Gal Mil fleets and shot nothing.... and that's about it.
The Data site runners were both fairly new, one was an old account but had re subbed with the Rhea release. Both were clueless about D-scan as I was following with combat probes. To be honest I was looking for lost drones but when ships pop up, its rude not to track them down.
I followed the same routine for each, entered site cloaked, sat 10k off a can and waited for them to come to that can. as soon as they started the hack, de-cloaked, locked and a single rail gun volley, blew them off the field. Did not bother to lock the pods, and they were both probably quick enough to evade if I had.
Had a chat afterwards and showed both how to Dscan. Also felt sorry for them, so in the spirit of good cheer and all that re shipped both into cruiser hulls, I had spare, and sent them on their way. Hopefully that would help them to re sub rather than jack it in. Also both may stay out of low sec until they feel happier.
More individual details shortly
Wednesday, October 8, 2014
High Sec PI
That Character I had in the old Wormhole, well, courtesy of a local Clone Vat is now 5 systems from Dodixie. Skill queue is paused, but does have 3's in all the PI skills.
So I know going into it that its not as good as Wormhole PI, but its still a revenue generator. So I look around.
PI in High Sec, and indeed Low Sec is more complicated. All the customs offices are taken and belong to corps charging up to 30% tax. I spent an hour and a half touring all systems within 5 jumps of Dodixe, and found the average was around 18-20%. Some systems had a few at 12% tax but others in system were in the high 20's.
Now I am basically lazy. I want to log in to this one every 3-4 days, run to Dodixe, sell and run back. 15 to 20 mins max. So I am looking for all planets in one system that are reasonable. On top of this tax, you also pay a % to concord, I believe another 10%, but this can be reduced by training a skill.
Currently he can use a maximum of 4 planets and so set up on an Ice, Lava, Barren and Storm planet. each one has a single extractor with 10 heads, a launch pad, a storage and 3 basic processors.
Raw materials go to storage, pulled into processors and output sent to launch pad to wait for pick up.
The basic head mining rate is about 40-50 for a 1 day period, compared with about 150 in the wormhole for the same skills.
Three days later I log in collect the Epithal I have just bought and zip around the planets, collect the product and nip to Dodixie and sell. Again lazy and sell to buy orders.
Out of Interest 4 products, 8 lots of tax, 4 to concord and 4 to customs office owners. total paid 1.316 million.
Selling in Dodixe to buy orders 11.581 million.
Sales taxes in Dodixie are 130,000
So Profit before expenses (Build cost, time etc) roughly 10.1 million for 3 days or a bit over 800,000 per planet per day.
So if all goes to plan in the region of 100 million a month.
This is not brilliant but 3 fitted assault frigates a month for half an hour or so a week is a fair swap.
Its taken me a week to get back to this draft. In that week I have trained Planetology and advanced planetology to 4 and 3 respectively.
Now I have noticed that better quality resources pop up the higher you train. Fair enough. But I plonked my extractor heads on the largest dull white areas I could find. I expected the good areas to get better and maybe more good areas crop up as skills improve.
However, yes new white areas have cropped up. All out of range of extractor head, however the white areas I was on have disappeared and the yield seems to have dropped slightly if anything.
Moral of that story is to train the Planetology and advanced planetology to the point that you are happy before you settle planets.
Meanwhile I have been playing skill queue online all week as RL is busy.
John
So I know going into it that its not as good as Wormhole PI, but its still a revenue generator. So I look around.
PI in High Sec, and indeed Low Sec is more complicated. All the customs offices are taken and belong to corps charging up to 30% tax. I spent an hour and a half touring all systems within 5 jumps of Dodixe, and found the average was around 18-20%. Some systems had a few at 12% tax but others in system were in the high 20's.
Now I am basically lazy. I want to log in to this one every 3-4 days, run to Dodixe, sell and run back. 15 to 20 mins max. So I am looking for all planets in one system that are reasonable. On top of this tax, you also pay a % to concord, I believe another 10%, but this can be reduced by training a skill.
Currently he can use a maximum of 4 planets and so set up on an Ice, Lava, Barren and Storm planet. each one has a single extractor with 10 heads, a launch pad, a storage and 3 basic processors.
Raw materials go to storage, pulled into processors and output sent to launch pad to wait for pick up.
The basic head mining rate is about 40-50 for a 1 day period, compared with about 150 in the wormhole for the same skills.
Three days later I log in collect the Epithal I have just bought and zip around the planets, collect the product and nip to Dodixie and sell. Again lazy and sell to buy orders.
Out of Interest 4 products, 8 lots of tax, 4 to concord and 4 to customs office owners. total paid 1.316 million.
Selling in Dodixe to buy orders 11.581 million.
Sales taxes in Dodixie are 130,000
So Profit before expenses (Build cost, time etc) roughly 10.1 million for 3 days or a bit over 800,000 per planet per day.
So if all goes to plan in the region of 100 million a month.
This is not brilliant but 3 fitted assault frigates a month for half an hour or so a week is a fair swap.
Its taken me a week to get back to this draft. In that week I have trained Planetology and advanced planetology to 4 and 3 respectively.
Now I have noticed that better quality resources pop up the higher you train. Fair enough. But I plonked my extractor heads on the largest dull white areas I could find. I expected the good areas to get better and maybe more good areas crop up as skills improve.
However, yes new white areas have cropped up. All out of range of extractor head, however the white areas I was on have disappeared and the yield seems to have dropped slightly if anything.
Moral of that story is to train the Planetology and advanced planetology to the point that you are happy before you settle planets.
Meanwhile I have been playing skill queue online all week as RL is busy.
John
Monday, September 29, 2014
Back In Low Sec
Well some are anyway...
I wrote about creating the third character on my account. Well just noticed that he is still in the worm hole, Logged off in an Epithal, that I think may possibly have scanning gear, but not logged on to try.
Probably going to have to pod myself back to high with this one, If I can scan down the low sec in an Epithal, I still have to run across one or more hostile systems in a hauler.
Anyway, enough of my stupidity
John has settled into the corps new home near Ostingle and started doing Level 1 missions for Fed Customs. Using an Algos normally. To be honest they are not very exiting or stretching. It does however hone the paranoia a bit as low sec missions are prone to interruption from anyone and everyone.
If you have not spent any time in wormholes its a quick and effective way to get used to D-Scanning, is doing low sec missions. Keep a spare ship handy.
If I get on and I really have no time, then a spot of belt rating relieves the tension. I tend to do this in either of two ways.
1. Take a cloaky rail gun armed Proteus, warp cloaked to each belt at 30-50. If you see something worth shooting uncloak and blap.
2. Fire up the Drake and methodically clear each belt and kill them all.
Method one can go though 12 - 15 belts in about 15 mins, usually only stop for a battleship or a clone soldier. I admit I would stop for any Mordus Legion chaps, but only seen looted wrecks of these.
Method Two takes nearly my entire play time to do the same amount of belts. This does include nipping back to salvage and loot in a destroyer though.
The clone soldiers are present in about 40% of the belt runs I have done. Actual runs 11 against tags held = 4. All but one of these belt runs have been method 1 with the Proteus.
I find that if I log in and get two missions run then whip through the belts looking for Clone soldiers thats about my play time done.
As a side effect my security status has risen! I have gone from a Nasty Red Pirate at -9.6 to a Nasty Red Pirate at -8.7.
The Clone soldiers seem to be worth the most with a sec rise of 0.4% which is 10-20 times better than a normal rat. It also help that the tags that they drop can be sold quickly for 13-15 million each.
These 4 tags have helped me fund a little side project that I am working on.
I am going to sponsor a Corp Roam for a laugh. We (the royal we, as I am seldom on long enough) take out similar frigates, destroyers or cruisers on roams several times a week. mainly expecting to die, and wanting to have fun. If fun is had, a red kill board is irrelevant. Its a game.
I have built Tristans, Hull tanked them all with rigs, Drone Damage Amp, Damage control and Overdrive in lows, Scram, Web and Afterburner in mids, highs are either Neutron Blaster, 125 mm Rails or Neuts. Light drones in bay.
I have built the same number of each type and handing them out one night. Mainly as an experiment, and hey it may kill more than the last Venture roam. If they die its cost about 40 million but provided an evenings entertainment for 10 ish people.
Gone tech 2 for most things, so Low sec Placid could be either a Turkey shoot or Death Trap one night next week....
I have to admit that I probably will not be doing this again though for a while. On limited time the grief required to collect enough bits to outfit 10 ships, then sit and fit them is an experience to do once but a chore to repeat.
All good fun
I wrote about creating the third character on my account. Well just noticed that he is still in the worm hole, Logged off in an Epithal, that I think may possibly have scanning gear, but not logged on to try.
Probably going to have to pod myself back to high with this one, If I can scan down the low sec in an Epithal, I still have to run across one or more hostile systems in a hauler.
Anyway, enough of my stupidity
John has settled into the corps new home near Ostingle and started doing Level 1 missions for Fed Customs. Using an Algos normally. To be honest they are not very exiting or stretching. It does however hone the paranoia a bit as low sec missions are prone to interruption from anyone and everyone.
If you have not spent any time in wormholes its a quick and effective way to get used to D-Scanning, is doing low sec missions. Keep a spare ship handy.
If I get on and I really have no time, then a spot of belt rating relieves the tension. I tend to do this in either of two ways.
1. Take a cloaky rail gun armed Proteus, warp cloaked to each belt at 30-50. If you see something worth shooting uncloak and blap.
2. Fire up the Drake and methodically clear each belt and kill them all.
Method one can go though 12 - 15 belts in about 15 mins, usually only stop for a battleship or a clone soldier. I admit I would stop for any Mordus Legion chaps, but only seen looted wrecks of these.
Method Two takes nearly my entire play time to do the same amount of belts. This does include nipping back to salvage and loot in a destroyer though.
The clone soldiers are present in about 40% of the belt runs I have done. Actual runs 11 against tags held = 4. All but one of these belt runs have been method 1 with the Proteus.
I find that if I log in and get two missions run then whip through the belts looking for Clone soldiers thats about my play time done.
As a side effect my security status has risen! I have gone from a Nasty Red Pirate at -9.6 to a Nasty Red Pirate at -8.7.
The Clone soldiers seem to be worth the most with a sec rise of 0.4% which is 10-20 times better than a normal rat. It also help that the tags that they drop can be sold quickly for 13-15 million each.
These 4 tags have helped me fund a little side project that I am working on.
I am going to sponsor a Corp Roam for a laugh. We (the royal we, as I am seldom on long enough) take out similar frigates, destroyers or cruisers on roams several times a week. mainly expecting to die, and wanting to have fun. If fun is had, a red kill board is irrelevant. Its a game.
I have built Tristans, Hull tanked them all with rigs, Drone Damage Amp, Damage control and Overdrive in lows, Scram, Web and Afterburner in mids, highs are either Neutron Blaster, 125 mm Rails or Neuts. Light drones in bay.
I have built the same number of each type and handing them out one night. Mainly as an experiment, and hey it may kill more than the last Venture roam. If they die its cost about 40 million but provided an evenings entertainment for 10 ish people.
Gone tech 2 for most things, so Low sec Placid could be either a Turkey shoot or Death Trap one night next week....
I have to admit that I probably will not be doing this again though for a while. On limited time the grief required to collect enough bits to outfit 10 ships, then sit and fit them is an experience to do once but a chore to repeat.
All good fun
Friday, September 26, 2014
Logistics are a bit toooo much
The Logistics of operating a POS in W space have beaten me.
Now in Real Life,
that's that bit outside internet spaceships,
I have a new job. Not one I asked for or went looking for, more a case of the Boss saying there's a position vacant here, we think you can do it, its yours if you want it, let me know tomorrow.
Oh and by the way if you say no, your current role may be chopped in a couple of months...
Pay rise... No
Better Benefits .... No
Outside comfort Zone ... Yes
Lots More Work... Yes
Later Hours ... Yes
But lots of training into a position that is marketable most places instead of the very narrow field I was in.
So no brainer it seems.
However its cut my eve time from 1-2 hours a day to 30 mins to an hour tops.
For the first week, I would log in. Scan out the sigs, reset PI, then see if the holes lead to high sec for fuel. By the time I had done this and scanned out the C2, I was done. John, my main character had not even logged in that week.
Most days I would have no time to do anything else. I was logging on for no fun at all.
I play to unwind and I was stressing about fuel and a dwindling bank account, PI not quite paying for fuel costs. Its not good to stress over pixels.
The final straw was one of these new frigate holes. Found it, ignored it, went to sort PI. Next thing I know my POS was hit with a bomb.
Several Bombers on long Dscan, and three times one would decloak, drop a bomb and warp off before my guns could lock him.
No lasting damage but pride, and they were clearly playing to draw me out and murder me in a dark place. Now I was in a bomber, set up to scout, and I had my trusty Drake, but nothing that can kill multiple frigates. So I thought I can't touch them, and they cant be bothered to kill my stuff, so I logged off and went to walk the dog, who was most grateful.
Logged back on, to see if I still had a POS, and I had. Made the decision that I needed to move out, and there was a high in next doors C2. The C2 was clearly inhabited, multiple POS with lots of industry.
BUT no time like the present. Started ferrying all ships but scout and Iteron MK V out. all full of stuff.
Off lined and unanchored most defenses, and arrays and shipped them out.
Made the mistake of off lining the tower with a gun still anchored. Mistake that as could not unanchor the tower, had to put fuel in and wait to online to do it properly.
POS stuff is a nightmare and isn't simple.
Nearly 4 hours later at 3am I finally had most things in high sec. I had left a small gun that was 50k away but thats it. I could not be bothered to go back.
The next day I totted up the expenses..
Cost of ships
Cost of Tower
Cost of Fuel
Vs
Loot
And came up heavily in the RED.
However if I count the equipment and fittings I have at book value, then I made a profit. The Loot and PI paid for the fuel and 30% of the ship and tower cost, and I still have the ships and tower.
I did not play Oliver for a week, mindlessly failing to shoot things with John.
I have been invited to join a corp in a C3, which means I do not have to run my own POS, but real work currently comes first.
I have found that I do not have much of a life outside work, and I am taking a couple of weeks to sort it out.
Now in Real Life,
that's that bit outside internet spaceships,
I have a new job. Not one I asked for or went looking for, more a case of the Boss saying there's a position vacant here, we think you can do it, its yours if you want it, let me know tomorrow.
Oh and by the way if you say no, your current role may be chopped in a couple of months...
Pay rise... No
Better Benefits .... No
Outside comfort Zone ... Yes
Lots More Work... Yes
Later Hours ... Yes
But lots of training into a position that is marketable most places instead of the very narrow field I was in.
So no brainer it seems.
However its cut my eve time from 1-2 hours a day to 30 mins to an hour tops.
For the first week, I would log in. Scan out the sigs, reset PI, then see if the holes lead to high sec for fuel. By the time I had done this and scanned out the C2, I was done. John, my main character had not even logged in that week.
Most days I would have no time to do anything else. I was logging on for no fun at all.
I play to unwind and I was stressing about fuel and a dwindling bank account, PI not quite paying for fuel costs. Its not good to stress over pixels.
The final straw was one of these new frigate holes. Found it, ignored it, went to sort PI. Next thing I know my POS was hit with a bomb.
Several Bombers on long Dscan, and three times one would decloak, drop a bomb and warp off before my guns could lock him.
No lasting damage but pride, and they were clearly playing to draw me out and murder me in a dark place. Now I was in a bomber, set up to scout, and I had my trusty Drake, but nothing that can kill multiple frigates. So I thought I can't touch them, and they cant be bothered to kill my stuff, so I logged off and went to walk the dog, who was most grateful.
Logged back on, to see if I still had a POS, and I had. Made the decision that I needed to move out, and there was a high in next doors C2. The C2 was clearly inhabited, multiple POS with lots of industry.
BUT no time like the present. Started ferrying all ships but scout and Iteron MK V out. all full of stuff.
Off lined and unanchored most defenses, and arrays and shipped them out.
Made the mistake of off lining the tower with a gun still anchored. Mistake that as could not unanchor the tower, had to put fuel in and wait to online to do it properly.
POS stuff is a nightmare and isn't simple.
Nearly 4 hours later at 3am I finally had most things in high sec. I had left a small gun that was 50k away but thats it. I could not be bothered to go back.
The next day I totted up the expenses..
Cost of ships
Cost of Tower
Cost of Fuel
Vs
Loot
And came up heavily in the RED.
However if I count the equipment and fittings I have at book value, then I made a profit. The Loot and PI paid for the fuel and 30% of the ship and tower cost, and I still have the ships and tower.
I did not play Oliver for a week, mindlessly failing to shoot things with John.
I have been invited to join a corp in a C3, which means I do not have to run my own POS, but real work currently comes first.
I have found that I do not have much of a life outside work, and I am taking a couple of weeks to sort it out.
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